Jack Posobiec and JD Vance discussed the economic and cultural pressures facing young men, with Posobiec arguing that the labor market has changed dramatically from what earlier generations experienced and Vance saying government, universities, and corporations spent years normalizing discrimination based on race and sex.

Posobiec said young men are reacting to economic pressures that did not exist in the same way when many older Republican politicians were beginning their careers.

"So many young men are, you know, kind of responding to is that they there's so many pressures now on that labor market that just didn't exist when a lot of those tone deaf Republicans that you mentioned when they were coming up and they were getting involved in politics and it's just a different world in so many ways and yeah you know you can talk about the generational gap but it actually is true the world has changed a lot," Posobiec said.

Vance agreed and said one of the biggest shifts involved what he described as the institutionalization of anti-white and anti-male discrimination.

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"It's changed a whole lot, and I mean, look, one of the things that changed a whole lot for a long time, for the worse and now for the better, is that we institutionalized anti-white, anti-male discrimination in this country," Vance said.

He argued that the way white men were discussed politically became increasingly hostile under previous leadership.

"I mean, if you just look at the way that we spoke about white men in the United States of America, not me, obviously not the president, but like Joe Biden, like it's actually amazing," Vance said.

Posobiec then joked about Vance’s past references to hillbillies.

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"You know, you did call him a bunch of hillbillies. Just saying," Posobiec said.

Vance pushed back, saying he was referring to himself and that he considers the term a point of pride.

"No. I said I'm a hillbilly. I'm proud of that, man," Vance said.

He added that people from that background remain part of the broader political coalition.

"And yeah, like the hillbillies are a part of the coalition, but we're a proud part of the coalition. I don't think we don't we don't shy away from that term," Vance said.

Vance then returned to his broader argument, saying the country spent years accepting a form of identity-based discrimination that he believes should never have become normalized.

"But look, man, you institutionalized for a very long time a way of talking about our fellow Americans that was totally disgusting," Vance said.

He said a friend recently pointed out to him how discrimination had, in Vance’s view, spread across hiring, college admissions, and private-sector policies.

"And I was actually talking with a friend of mine about this, and he was like, 'If you look at the way the Biden administration discriminated against people and job applications, college applications, the way that we just allowed explicitly racist discrimination against our laws to become part of the normal practice of our government, of our admissions policies, of our private corporations," Vance said.

He argued that such practices became so widespread that it was remarkable they did not produce a much larger public backlash.

"Like it's kind of insane that we didn't have like a revolution in this country," Vance said.

Vance said the Trump administration is now trying to reverse those practices and eliminate race- and sex-based discrimination.

"We explicitly discriminated against people, and it's one of the things that I'm proudest of in the Trump administration again. There's a lot more work to do, but like we're not discriminating against people, black or white, based on the color of their skin and job applications," Vance said.

He said the administration is also telling universities they cannot discriminate against applicants based on being white, male, or belonging to any other identity group.

"We're telling the universities you're not allowed to discriminate against white guys, against dudes, against anyone. We don't want discrimination against anybody, but we did allow that discrimination in this country for a long time," Vance said.

Vance closed by addressing young men who remain angry about their position in the economy and society. He said they should continue pressing for more change but should also recognize the policy victories he believes have already occurred.

"So what I would tell like young men who are pissed off is you should absolutely be advocating for more. You should absolutely be demanding more. But I would also recognize the wins because they are out there."

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