Attorney John Morgan argued that the Democratic Party is facing an identity crisis over socialism, while Fox News host Kayleigh McEnany suggested the party's direction could become clearer during the 2028 presidential election if Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez enters the race.

During a discussion on Fox News, Morgan said he believes the Democratic Party has struggled for years with competing ideological factions.

"The Democratic Party is in a crisis, and it has been for a long, long time. Who are we? Are we Democrats? Are we socialists?"

Morgan said he takes politicians at their word when they identify themselves as socialists and questioned why supporters of socialism point to the ideology despite what he views as its historical record.

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"When they put the name socialist at the end of it, I believed them when they said that. I didn't believe that it was anything but that."

He continued by pointing to Cuba and Venezuela as examples he believes demonstrate socialism's failures.

"And what I don't understand is why can't anybody, anyone find a socialist government that ever worked? The past is the best predictor of the future, and for me sitting here in Florida, all I got to do is look down at Cuba, 47 years ago, look down at Venezuela. And the question for all of the Democratic Socialists is this: Tell me one place that it's worked! And nobody can give me that answer."

McEnany agreed with Morgan's challenge.

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"It's a great question."

Morgan expanded on his argument, saying he believes socialism historically progresses toward communism.

"Because the past does predict the future, and nobody seems to be giving us just one country, just one, where it's worked. And what it usually works to be is it converts from socialism to communism. It is It is the gateway drug to communism."

McEnany responded by asking whether the Democratic Party could reverse what she characterized as its movement toward socialism.

"It's an empirical question with a definite answer: socialism does not work. You point that out. You left the party. Look, you are of the the Bill Clinton wing of the party, the the sane wing of the party, if you will. So, do you think there's a way for the Democratic Party to find their way out of this? Is it a coalition of Democrats that come together? Is it a certain 2028 nominee? Is there a way for your former party to emerge from the abyss of socialism?"

Morgan replied that he believes both major political parties now contain competing ideological factions.

"They're going to have trouble, but, you know, look, it happened in the Republican Party. The Republican Party is two parties: it's RINOs and MAGA. The Democratic Party is now two parties: it's Bill Clinton Democrats and me—I was on his finance committee, had dinner with him this year in Florida—and then it's the socialist."

He added that he sees four distinct political movements operating within America's two-party system.

"There are actually four parties in America, and those four parties are part of two parties."

Morgan also expressed concern about the long-term direction of the country.

"But I don't see a future. I mean, look, James Carville, I was with him at the Kentucky Derby this year, I'm worried he's going to have a stroke, he's so upset about what's going on. But the genie is out of the bottle, and everybody knows what it is, and it's catching on. And it worries me to death, because the greatness of our country came from capitalism where everybody has a chance at a great result."

He continued by saying he worries about America's future.

"And the the thing that bothers me also is this is the greatest country, the greatest civilization in the history of the world. But we're only 250 years old and could could this crash down? Could could that could that happen? That worries me a great deal."

McEnany then shifted the discussion to the 2028 presidential race, arguing that it could become a defining moment for the Democratic Party.

"These are the kind of questions that need to be asked. And it it strikes me that 2028 is really the crossroads moment. Look, this is a midterm election year. You have people in different states, different ideologies. But when we look at 2028, AOC, she does hail from the socialist wing of the party. She's trying to distance herself from that a bit and hedge. But she was asked point blank, Are you running in 2028? Listen to what she said."

A video clip then showed Ocasio-Cortez responding to a question about a possible presidential campaign.

"I haven't ruled out the possibility and I'm very humbled to the tremendous amount of support out there. I think that we have a responsibility to remain focused on the midterms and not on our individual aspirations or plans."

After the clip, McEnany offered her own assessment.

"I mean, I think she's running. What what does that do to the party? Should she run?"

Morgan said he also believes Ocasio-Cortez is preparing for a presidential bid.

"Well, I think she's running. And listen, because the field is so broad, she could she could win."

He noted, however, that he believes South Carolina's position as the first Democratic primary could present a challenge.

"The The good thing for the Democrats is the first primary is in South Carolina. She will not win the primary in South Carolina, but she's very formidable, she is very talented, she has pizzazz, and she's harnessed this energy."

Morgan concluded by arguing that political movements often draw support from different forms of envy and resentment, comparing current political trends to historical examples in Cuba and Venezuela.

"What's going on here in a in a quick brief way to tell it is there's two types of envy: there's benign envy where you're kind of like, I want to be that guy, I want to be that gal, and then there is malicious envy, that which is, I want to take it from you. And some of these politicians are using malicious envy to harness that energy to give them the base. And listen, malicious envy happened in Cuba, malicious envy happened in Venezuela, and to a certain degree, Donald Trump was a genius because he felt the malicious envy or anger on in the Republican Party which was reverse discrimination. White people felt that they were being discriminated against, and they were mad about it. And he harnessed that anger. That same anger is being harnessed in a different way by the Bernie Sanders, and it's it's very powerful because at the end of the day, Kayleigh, when people get pushed to the very wall, they just come and take it. When Marie Antoinette said, Let them eat cake, they said, No, we'll just cut your head off. And it can happen. And so, it worries me a great deal."

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