An exchange between commentator Andrew Kolvet and Border Czar Tom Homan focused on mounting obstacles faced by federal immigration enforcement, escalating threats against officers, and the role of state and local leaders who oppose cooperation with immigration authorities.

During the discussion, Kolvet criticized mayors and governors who he said are actively impeding immigration enforcement efforts and called for stronger legal consequences.

“But I hope there's more we can do legally to get these guys to stop impeding the good work that you guys are doing, because it's so important. A lot of these mayors need to go see jail cells, as far as I'm concerned... and governors,” Kolvet said.

Homan responded cautiously, signaling that developments may be forthcoming.

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“I can just say, look, wait, wait and see,” Homan said.

Kolvet then tied the issue directly to upcoming midterm elections, arguing that political calculations have stalled action and warning that lawmakers are avoiding difficult decisions.

“By the way, this is why the midterms are so important, right? Because getting these Republicans to do anything next year, ahead of these midterms, they're going to be total cowards. They don't want to rock the boat. Little do they know that would actually galvanize support. More people would show up for him,” Kolvet said.

He added that regardless of election outcomes, enforcement agencies would continue to push forward.

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“But if, if we have a good outcome in these midterms, and even if we don't, frankly, because we still have the federal branch, but like, there is going to, I believe that you guys are going to be even more emboldened. There's going to be even more runway for you guys to do some really important things,” he said.

Homan used the remainder of the exchange to deliver a direct appeal to elected officials, warning that hostile rhetoric toward immigration agents has contributed to real-world violence.

“Let me end with this. I want to say the same thing I said last week when I was down in the San Diego. I'm I'm asking every mayor, governor, you cannot like us. You can impede, you can call us all the names you want. I'm asking them stop the hateful rhetoric,” Homan said.

He referenced warnings he previously issued and said those concerns have since been realized.

“Yes, because I said back in March, if the hateful rhetoric doesn't die down, there's going to be bloodshed. And there has been. People have died,” Homan said.

Homan spoke about the personal toll of violence against law enforcement, drawing on his own career experience.

“And as I said last week, I have throughout my long career, I buried Border Patrol agents. I buried ICE agents, and the worst part of my job is handing a folded flag to a child or a spouse. I don't want to bury anybody else,” he said.

He cited sharp increases in threats and violence directed at immigration officers.

“So please stop the hateful rhetoric, because ICE threats of a solar up like 8,000% actual assaults are up like 1200%, so I'm begging you no more bloodshed,” Homan said.

Homan said he prays nightly for both law enforcement and those targeted for enforcement actions.

“And you know, every night I go to bed, I pray for the men and women of ICE and Border Patrol. I also pray for the people we're looking for. I don't want anybody to die,” he said.

He warned that labeling immigration officers with extreme rhetoric can provoke unstable individuals into committing violence.

“So for God's sake, stop the hateful rhetoric, just like us all you want, but stop calling these people Nazis and racists and Gestapo because you got nuts out there that feel emboldened to take action.” Homan said.

Despite his criticism, Homan said he remains open to cooperation with jurisdictions that currently limit collaboration with federal authorities.

“Argue with us all. You want come to the table and talk to me. Sanctuary cities. I want to work with sanctuary cities. I want them to work with us and concentrate on public safety risk,” he said.

He closed by repeating his warning that violence could continue if rhetoric remains unchanged.

“But stop the hateful rhetoric. I'm telling you, the bloodshed isn't over. So you know, God bless the men and women of ICE, God bless men and women of Border Patrol. God bless President Trump and God bless the greatest nation on Earth,” Homan said.

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