In a recent interview with Tucker Carlson, former 2024 Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy discussed plans for a significant overhaul of the federal bureaucracy under the incoming Trump administration.

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The conversation, released on Friday, centered on strategies to decentralize federal agencies and implement systemic changes in Washington, D.C.

Ramaswamy emphasized the necessity of relocating or eliminating certain federal agencies to enhance accountability and efficiency.

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He stated, “I think many of those agencies should not exist. Many of them that do continue to exist absolutely should be moved to other parts of the country.”

Specifically, he mentioned the Office of the Surgeon General and the U.S. Department of Agriculture as candidates for relocation, arguing that their presence in Washington, D.C., leads to undue insulation from the public.

Addressing the U.S. Department of Education, Ramaswamy advocated for its complete dissolution.

He remarked, “I wouldn’t want to start this process of just saying, okay, let’s move them out of Washington, D.C., as some sort of polite, genteel way of avoiding and sidestepping the thing that we actually need to do, which is bring a jackhammer and a chainsaw to the whole thing.”

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He proposed reallocating its functions, suggesting that workforce training could be transferred to the Department of Labor and loan collections to the Treasury.

Ramaswamy also discussed the potential for a substantial reduction in federal workforce numbers.

He suggested that requiring federal employees to work in-office daily might lead many to resign voluntarily.

To prevent the new administration from becoming entrenched in existing bureaucratic structures, he recommended an immediate reduction of approximately 75% of federal employees.

Reflecting on the broader implications of such reforms, Ramaswamy noted, “It’s just a mass opportunity for a mega reorganization and thereby downsizing of this bureaucracy. And it’s a one-way ratchet because it’s not like if another president comes back, they can write that back into existence by fiat. They’d actually have to go through Congress to do it.”

When Carlson inquired about Ramaswamy’s potential involvement in these restructuring efforts, he responded affirmatively, stating, “I’d like to be, yeah, absolutely. I’ve given it a lot of thought. It was the centerpiece of my presidential campaign. I spent a year and a half of my life. It was probably the most. I mean, I took a lot of positions on a lot of things, but this is probably the single most useful and certainly personally important to me, part of the policy aspect of my campaign last year.”

He further indicated that he has been engaged in discussions regarding the blueprint for these reforms in recent months.

These proposed changes align with President-elect Donald Trump’s recent electoral success, where he secured all seven battleground states, won the popular vote, and achieved a Republican majority in the Senate.

The incoming administration appears poised to implement significant transformations within the federal government, aiming to enhance efficiency and responsiveness to the American public.

Ramaswamy’s insights provide a glimpse into the potential direction of federal policy under the new administration, highlighting a commitment to reducing bureaucratic complexity and increasing governmental accountability.

Rhis wasn’t the first time Vivek discussed reducing the Federal bureaucracy:

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