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Appearing on The Laura Ingraham Show on Wednesday, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker weighed in on the disturbing video released July 14 by the Center for Medical Progress, a nonprofit group focused on medical ethics.  The video allegedly shows Planned Parenthood executives discussing the sale of harvested organs from aborted babies. The issue is drawing national outrage.

“These are the sorts of things that Hillary Clinton and President Obama stand up for, they’re ones who are the extremists,” Walker continued.

“It’s mind-boggling … this is not about women’s health, this is the sort of thing that money for Planned Parenthood goes to,” Walker told Ingraham. “It’s outrageous. Certainly people like you and I who are pro-life feel that way but I think most Americans look at this and say, whether they think they’re pro-life or not, that this is wrong, but these are the sorts of things that Hillary Clinton and President Obama stand up for, they’re the ones who are the extremists,” he said.

“They’re entertaining the idea of selling fetal body parts, which they then say, well that’s just part of our fetal tissue program,” Ingraham noted. “As a mother, as someone who is obviously pro-life, I thought they were bad but this is a level of evil I can’t even express.”

Also during the interview, Walker resisted efforts to get drawn into a debate with real estate mogul Donald Trump, who was also scheduled to be on the show later in the morning.

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Fresh off his presidential kickoff, Walker instead highlighted his record governing as a conservative in a blue state. He denied a report this week in the National Journal, quoting an anonymous adviser, that he intends to lock up conservative support in Iowa now and then drift to the political center.

“It can’t just be talk … anybody who has any question about that need only look at my record in Wisconsin,” he told Ingraham.

“It can’t just be talk … anybody who has any question about that need only look at my record in Wisconsin,” he told Ingraham.

That record, he said, includes defunding Planned Parenthood and signing laws requiring women to get an ultrasound before getting an abortion; allowing workers to opt out of unions and requiring a photo identification at the voting polls. He said he also cut taxes and supported a “castle doctrine” law protecting people who shoot intruders on their property.

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Walker said the proper strategy in a general election is not changing positions but explaining them to voters in a different way.

“It’s how you articulate that to the American people,” he said.

Walker’s appearance comes as a USA Today/Suffolk University poll puts Trump atop the crowded GOP presidential primary field. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush was second, and Walker — as he consistently has for more than a month in other surveys — placed third. Despite several invitations from Ingraham, however, Walker declined to take on Trump directly.

Instead, he restated his position that the federal government needs to secure the U.S. border with Mexico. He noted that he has been to the border recently with Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.

Walker used his national radio appearance to reiterate the fundamental rationale for his campaign — that he is a conservative who has gotten results in a blue state. He emphasized that he has won three statewide elections in a state that last voted for a Republican presidential candidate in 1984.

“People want somebody who could both fight and win,” he said.

Walker also chided the Republican-controlled Congress for timidity.

“You’ve got to be big and you’ve got to be bold,” he said. “Why aren’t we talking about a vote to repeal Obamacare and put it on the president’s desk? Why aren’t we talking about pushing back on illegal immigration? Why aren’t we talking about pushing back on issue after issue?”

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