In an interview with “CBS This Morning” that aired on Monday morning, former First Lady Michelle Obama revealed that she has a rule that people have to “be vaccinated” against COVID-19 in order to “hang out” with her family.

“We’re still dealing with COVID. We are now going into year two,” said host Gayle King. “I remember you wrote candidly about feeling a low grade of depression. How did you get through that, and how did that manifest itself for you? I think a lot of people felt that.”

“Well, and that’s why I thought it was important to say it out loud because to not feel depressed with all that was going on?” Michelle replied, to which King said, “It would be what’s wrong with you?”

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“Sort of like, you feel okay in all of this?” Michelle continued. “You know, sometimes we just need to speak the truth. You know, when there’s such uncertainty and unrest and lack of leadership and calm, it is upsetting. It shakes you. But the point is that, you know, there are dips, ebbs and flows to life. There are times when you feel great and times when you feel really low. But it’s important for us to own that that happens to us. For me, you know, I have developed my own set of tools. Number one, I tell you this all the time, sometimes I have to turn it off. Sometimes I cannot continue to take it in.”

“I think I want young people to be comfortable with identifying those peaks and valleys, and knowing that those valleys don’t last forever,”she added. “I just don’t want any young person to make a decision about anything when they’re in a valley. You know? They have to know that time will move you to a better place.”

“It does seem like we’re coming out of the COVID valley,” King responded. “You know, it was a long, dark tunnel. I think we’re still sort of in the tunnel, but I do sort of see light back there.”

“Well, it’d be better light if people would get vaccinated,” Michelle said. “The science behind a COVID-19 vaccine  is the same science that’s behind aspirin and insulin.”

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“What are the COVID rules for visiting the Obamas?” King questioned.

“Now it’s be vaccinated,” Michelle said emphatically. “You want to hang out with us? Get your vaccine. Get all of it. Finish it up. And then we can talk. So I urge everybody out there, within the sound of our voices, please, please get the vaccine. It’s time.”