On Wednesday, during an interview on Snapchat, presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden said “I don’t have any problem comparing my energy level to Donald Trump” and that he is “really resisting” giving President Trump a nickname.

Biden told the reporter, “Look, Trump is a master at laying nicknames on people, but the vast majority of the voters out there that have voted, including young people, are not getting all their news from the Internet, but I’m trying to compete there. We’re getting started late in the metaphorical sense, 102 million video views across social media platforms just in mid-March, just since mid-March for me. And look at all these young people now who are getting out of high school. They are doing part-time jobs. They’re driving Ubers; they’re doing a whole range of things that— the world’s changing, but we haven’t changed to accommodate to their needs. And I think it’s just important to speak to that. And in terms of energy, I don’t have any problem comparing my energy level to Donald Trump, who I’m really giving a nickname to.”

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“I’m sure we can do better on the Internet. I’m positive of that,” Biden said. “But the fact is that we’re trying. Recent events, the Instagram question and answer with one of the leading soccer players in the world, the latest episode of ‘Here’s the Deal’ podcast with Andrew Yang—we’re trying to get better with it. I can hardly wait to get out of being on my back porch here.”

Biden’s energy in this entire election cycle has been rather low, but definitely filled with numerous disjointed and awkward appearances. One of the saving graces to his campaign has been this virus-related lockdown. It’s given his handlers a valid excuse to keep him off the stage, away from the live cameras and minuscule crowds he was drawing pre-COVID, largely preventing more of those hilarious soundbite gaffes we’ve all enjoyed in recent months.