Fox News host Tucker Carlson discussed the supernatural efforts against President Donald Trump on Tuesday evening with Amanda Yates Garcia, the “Oracle of Los Angeles” — someone who performs monthly rituals and “binding spells” against POTUS.

“Binding spells … are symbolic actions used to harness the powers of the imagination and achieve a tangible result eventually,” Garcia said. “I desire that Trump stop harming people that I care about and instituting policies that also harm me or other people that I care about. My ultimate aim is that we protect people we love from having harm done to them.”

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This is hardly the first time witches have cast spells (or tried to) against the president.

Back in early September, an article in The Sun noted that tens of thousands of witches every month join forces to “cast a binding spell” on Trump and “protect” people from his actions.

Garcia said she saw nothing wrong with what she was doing — and even went so far as to try to compare her “symbolic actions” to other such actions, such as standing for “The Star-Spangled Banner” or saluting the American flag.

What? Carlson, naturally, was not convinced.

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“There clearly is a supernatural. I don’t understand it — but I wonder if you’re ever worried about the consequences of, bluntly, fooling around with things that nobody really understands? I’m sincere: Do you ever worry about that?” asked Carlson.

“You know, a lot of people ask me that — whether or not I worry about the supernatural consequences of what I’m doing,” replied Garcia. “I mean, I trust that what I’m doing is for the greatest good of all concerned because that’s what I hold in my heart … [The other witches] have the pure intention of creating good in the world, to make a more beautiful, loving, whole, healthy world. And so, that’s the intention … Nobody is worried that it’s going to backfire on them, because nobody is doing this spell to cause Trump harm. Nobody wants the president to cause harm.”