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NBC News aired Megyn Kelly’s controversial interview with Infowars’ Alex Jones Sunday evening, and one of the most anticipated moments was when the host called out Jones for insinuating that the Sandy Hook massacre, in which many children were killed, did not happen.

Kelly played a clip of Jones saying “the whole thing was a fake” in 2014, and the radio host tries to backtrack on his statements — but then seemingly flip-flops on himself and defends what he said three years ago.

Watch the clip above to see the two battle it out over Jones’ controversial viewpoints.