‘Here’s a Stomach, Kidney, Heart’

The pro-life group that made secret recordings of Planned Parenthood facilities released a fourth video Thursday, this time showing a doctor at a Colorado affiliate pointing out tiny organs of an aborted fetus.

“It’s a baby,” says Dr. Savita Ginde, vice president and medical director of Planned Parenthood Rocky Mountains, as she points out a heart, lungs, stomach and kidney.

Adds a medical assistant: “It’s another boy.”

The April video, made by people posing as buyers for a tissue procurement company, shows Ginde discussing price and expressing concern about how the transactions might be perceived by the public.

Thursday marked the fourth release from the Center for Medical Progress, which has said it will put out more.

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Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said Thursday on the “The Laura Ingraham Show” that he believes Republicans in the upper chamber will rally around his bill to cut off federal funding for the abortion provider. But he said passage remains in doubt and urged people to flood their senators’ offices with calls in support — particularly if they are Democrats.

“Now everybody’s coming together on the Republican side. I think most Republicans will vote for this,” Paul said, adding that 60 votes to overcome a filibuster is a high bar. “We have to try to get Democrats involved.”

Responding to comments Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton made this week in an interview with the New Hampshire Union Leader — in which she called the videos “disturbing” but defended the organization’s overall record — Paul noted that the former New York senator and secretary of state has taken large sums of campaign cash from the group.

“I think she ought to return it  — all of it,” he said. “Or she’s going to have to say whether she agrees or disagrees with it.”

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Ever since the Center for Medical Progress released its first video on July 14, Planned Parenthood has been in damage-control mode. It has dismissed the “heavily edited” videos as misleading. Earlier this week, it touted a poll by a Democratic firm Hart Research Associates suggesting that 63 percent of registered voters opposed defunding Planned Parenthood.

Michael J. New, visiting economics professor at Florida’s Ave Maria University, took to National Review Online to fault the methodology of that survey. He wrote that it did not provide details from the videos and focused on popular services that it offers, such as cancer-screenings and family planning services.

In the new video at the Denver clinic, which performs 10,000 abortions a year, Ginde talks about the need to coordinate with other Planned Parenthood affiliates.

“So I feel like if you’re talking to other Planned Parenthoods, we sort of all have to be on the same page,” she says on the video. “So if anyone who gets called out or runs with it, that we’re all like, ‘Oh, I didn’t know you were doing this; oh, I’m doing this, too.’”

A man posing as a buyer asks about whether “research” is an accurate description of the transaction because it is not really research but rather sample collection.

“Well, I know but putting it under the research gives us a little bit of a, a little sort of overhang over the whole thing,” she responds.

She adds, “And in the public, I think it makes a lot more sense for it to be in the research vein than, I’d say, a business venture.”

Ginde and the buyers discuss price. A man posing as a representative from the company suggests $50 to $75 per specimen is a fair price. He says that would be better than a flat fee.

“I think a per-item thing works better, because we can see how much we can get out of it,” she says.

Ginde also warns that if the buyers were looking for tissue in an “anti-state,” they might get “caught.” Still, she reassures the buyers that Planned Parenthood’s lawyers had figured out a way to adhere to the letter of a federal statute that bans the sale of fetal body parts.

“I’m confident that our legal [department] will make sure that we are not put in that situation,” she said.