“They will be pro-life.”

There it was, in the first two minutes of the final presidential debate: Donald Trump spoke about the Supreme Court and who he would name to the court. He discussed the Second Amendment first, but strongly affirmed the pro-life beliefs of any justice he would name to the high court.

“There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic Church.”

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When asked specifically by moderator Chris Wallace about the issue of abortion, Trump confirmed again his intention to appoint pro-life justices — and said his appointments would overturn Roe v. Wade.

Trump also hammered Clinton on her truly radical stance on abortion and her support for partial-birth abortion. Clinton’s pro-choice stance is out-of-step with the beliefs of the general public. A 2011 Gallup poll found that 64 percent of Americans support a ban on partial-birth abortion.

Both candidates’ positions on abortion are very clear — and have been so throughout the campaign.

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For a large demographic of voters, the life issue is central to their voting decisions — including for Catholics. Abortion is an intrinsic evil, according to the Catholic faith; Catholics cannot vote for a pro-choice candidate. This is an exceptionally important issue this election cycle, given the possibility of multiple Supreme Court seats opening up and a very real chance of overturning Roe vs. Wade.

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But for Catholics, the Clinton campaign would rather attempt to change a 2,000-year tradition to serve their needs.

The WikiLeaks release of the Podesta emails have rocked the Clinton campaign for the past two weeks — revealing countless negative stories about the inner workings and thoughts of senior campaign officials. One of the more shocking emails that has been leaked concerns the Catholic vote — and a systematic political maneuver to facilitate a “revolution” within the American Catholic Church.

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Sandy Newman, the president and founder of the progressive nonprofit Voices for Progress, wrote to Podesta with the subject line: “opening for a Catholic Spring? just musing.”

“There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a middle ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic Church,” wrote Newman.

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“We created Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good to organize for a moment like this. But I think it lacks the leadership to do so now. Likewise Catholics United. Like most Spring movements, I think this one will have to be bottom up,” Podesta replied.

This “Catholic Spring” email has enraged Catholics all over the country — including Catholic bishops and cardinals.

Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan of New York spoke about this so-called “Catholic Spring” on Wednesday, saying it is “extraordinarily patronizing and insulting to Catholics.”

These internal messages were never meant to see the light of day — because it’s clear that the Clinton campaign thinks they can undermine the core beliefs of the Catholic faith.

On the abortion issue, Trump and Clinton have clearly laid out their opinions. For Catholics, Christians, and other pro-lifers who staunchly stand in defense of innocent life — their decision seems clear.