Ohio Senator JD Vance, known for his outspoken conservative stance, made waves during a lengthy discussion on Joe Rogan’s podcast.

As reported by The Daily Caller, Vance, speaking openly about the current political climate, suggested that he and former President Donald Trump could appeal to what he calls the “normal gay guy” vote, simply because they stand against the extreme measures pushed by left-wing activists and support a live-and-let-live attitude.

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After a recent appearance by Trump on the same podcast, Vance joined Rogan for a three-hour conversation. The two delved into various hot-button issues, including child gender transitions—a topic that has sparked significant national debate.

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According to Vance, many gay men are not on board with the progressive agenda pushing for medical interventions like puberty blockers and surgeries for children.

“I wouldn’t be surprised if me and Trump won just the normal gay guy vote,” Vance told Rogan directly. “Because, again, they just want to be left the hell alone, and now you have all this crazy stuff on top of it.”

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Vance’s comments align with a growing sentiment among conservatives that the LGBTQ+ movement is being overshadowed by radical ideas, especially around youth gender transition. Rogan echoed Vance’s concerns, highlighting that some in the gay community feel the push for gender transition surgeries implies that being gay isn’t acceptable.

Rogan noted, “Well, a lot of gay guys feel like the whole movement is homophobic, which is ironic…these kids would grow up just to be gay men, but instead, you’re getting them to convert their gender.”

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Vance agreed, adding that he sees this push as a form of “pharmaceutical conversion therapy,” with Rogan jumping in to note the profitability of these procedures.

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The discussion comes amidst a shifting landscape. In August, the American Society of Plastic Surgeons took a public stand against sex-change surgeries for minors. Following suit, European countries like the United Kingdom recently banned puberty blockers for children, indicating a collective reevaluation of “gender-affirming care.”

VP nominee JD Vance speaks during a rally at HES Equipment on Tuesday, Oct. 29, in Holland.

Meanwhile, the U.S. Supreme Court is set to review a case on Tennessee’s restrictive law on child gender procedures, a decision likely to shape the direction of future legislation.

Several detransitioners, including Chloe Cole—who began transitioning as a teen but later reversed course—have filed lawsuits against medical providers involved in such procedures. These cases add fuel to the movement questioning the ethics and long-term impacts of child gender transitions.

With public sentiment shifting, Vance and Trump’s conservative stance may indeed find surprising allies in unexpected quarters. As Vance pointed out, many just want to “be left the hell alone.”