Former First Lady Michelle Obama just made a surprising admission about her marriage, confessing that she wanted to “push Barack out of the window.”

While talking to guest Conan O’Brien during the latest episode of “The Michelle Obama Podcast,” the former First Lady was candid about the ups and downs of her marriage to Barack Obama.

“There were times that I wanted to push Barack out of the window. And I say that because it’s like, you’ve got to know the feelings will be intense. But that doesn’t mean you quit,” she said. “And these periods can last a long time. They can last years.”

Michelle went on to tell her listeners to go about finding a partner as if you’re assembling an all-star basketball team, and that a person should ideally pick the absolute best person to be with.

“You want LeBron [James]. You don’t want the guy, third row on the bench, who didn’t make the team, but we often don’t think about that,” she said. “What you’re supposed to say is, ‘I have married LeBron. My version of LeBron.’”

Michelle also talked about how important it is to give yourself time to see the person you’re dating “in an array of situations.”

“There’s no magic way to make that happen except getting the basics of finding somebody, being honest about wanting to be with them, to date them seriously, to plan on making a commitment, to date them, seeing where it goes, and then making it happen,” she said. “You can’t Tinder your way into a long-term relationship.”

Michelle is preparing to celebrate her 28th wedding anniversary with the former president next month.

This comes after Michelle claimed to have been hit with racism during her time as First Lady.

“When I’ve been completely incognito during the eight years in the White House, walking the dogs on the canal, people will come up and pet my dogs, but will not look me in the eye. They don’t know it’s me,” she said last month. “… That is so telling of how white America views people who are not like them, like we don’t exist. And when we do exist, we exist as a threat. And that’s exhausting.”