Rudy to Mueller: ‘We’ve Tortured This President Enough’
Former New York City mayor's advice for the special counsel: 'It's time to wrap this up' for the 'good for the American people'
It is time for special counsel Robert Mueller to bring his year-long investigation “to a close” because it’s “not good for the American people” to prolong the probe, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Wednesday during an exclusive interview on “The Ingraham Angle.”
“We’re trying to get [Mueller] to end this,” Giuliani told Fox News host Laura Ingraham. “This is not good for the American people, and the special counsel’s office doesn’t seem to have that, sort of, understanding that they’re interfering with things that are much bigger than them or us.”
“So it’s about time to get the darn thing over with,” Giuliani added. “It’s about time to say, ‘Enough, we’ve tortured this president enough.'”
When Ingraham asked him what his “optimal timeline for this to wrap up” would be, Giuliani replied, “They should do it today. I mean, as soon as possible.”
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller on May 17, 2017, to investigate allegations of collusion between President Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia during the 2016 U.S. presidential election. And just one day shy of a year later, Giuliani, now serving on Trump’s legal team, told Ingraham that there now remains “no reason for this investigation” to continue.
“I think that they have the facts from which they can write their report,” Giuliani said. “If you’re going to write a fair report, fine, write it. If you’re going to write an unfair report, write it, and we will combat it. We’re ready to rip to it apart, and we’re ready to rip them apart, if that’s what they want. We would rather peacefully settle this and get it over with.”
Giuliani noted that Trump’s team has turned over 1.4 million documents to Mueller, and Mueller has interviewed 28 witnesses.
“And he has nothing, which is why he wants to bring the president to an interview,” Giuliani said of Mueller. “And we’re demanding from him, ‘Tell us what you have to get from an interview that you don’t already have.’ Because he has all the facts to make a decision.”
Giuliani also revealed that Mueller informed Trump’s legal team that he planned to follow the Department of Justice’s protocol and not seek an indictment against the president.
“What we’re going to do is we’re — we’re going to see what kind of legal remedies are available to us, including if they subpoena us, challenge the subpoena, the same reason they can’t indict [a president] constitutionally,” Giuliani said.
“And remember, [former President Bill] Clinton opposed the subpoena, and then he voluntarily complied,” Giuliani noted. “He didn’t give up presidential prerogative, and then … the administration wrote a memo saying they can’t do that.”
Mueller told Trump’s legal team he plans to abide by the prerogative set during Clinton’s presidency, Giuliani claimed.
Although Mueller’s team hopes to interview Trump under oath and ask him questions regarding potential obstruction of justice concerns, Giuliani said he was hesitant to agree to such an interview. Giuliani also said that Mueller’s investigators are “not going to be able to invent any evidence” of obstruction of justice.
“There would be a narrow area where we might agree if they could tell us why they need it,” Giuliani said. “They have [Trump’s] explanations of everything. They have 1.4 million documents. They have the witnesses to corroborate them.”
“If they’re going to disbelieve them, they’re going to disbelieve them,” Giuliani added. “The fact is, we would have to know, what is it, that you want clarified?”
But the Mueller team’s “inability to reach a conclusion” during its year-long investigation has reaped serious repercussions for Trump and for the American people at large, Giuliani insisted.
“Their inability to reach a conclusion that is obvious, and their unwillingness to recognize the damage this does to our country, all over the world,” Giuliani said. “There’s no reason for this investigation. There never was a good reason for it in the first place.”