What might otherwise have been a reasonable discussion on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” about President Donald Trump’s effect on NATO and conflicting visions of America’s role on the world stage was quickly plunged into hyperbole by co-host Mika Brzezinski on Monday. Brzezinski insisted Trump’s election would be judged the most damaging event in American history.

“There is going to be damage done,” Brzezinski said. “We’re not just going to survive,” she said. “It’s going to be ugly.”

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Brzezinski’s comments came during a discussion about Trump’s approach to NATO and his vision of American leadership in the international arena. Co-host Joe Scarborough expressed befuddlement at Trump’s apparent indifference to “a world structure that allows the U.S. to be the most powerful, the most economically driven, and the most influential across the globe.”

But noting a conversation with a college professor about Ronald Reagan in which the professor said, “‘America is strong enough to survive even two terms of Ronald Reagan,'” Scarborough said. “But you know what? We’re strong enough to survive one term of Donald Trump.”

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“We have a 240-year-old brand and they know … this is about Donald Trump … and [the international community has] been through some pretty bad things dealing with the United States of America before,” Scarborough said. Brzezinski, however, wasn’t entirely unconvinced.

“We need to go for break,” the increasingly impatient Brzezinski insisted. “I’m thinking this is worse, and I think you’re wrong.”